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Danny Vendramini - Them & Us: Neanderthal Predation Theory
May 12, 2013
Danny Vendramini is a theoretical biologist, specializing in the evolution of behavior and human origins. He is the author of Them and Us: How Neanderthal predation created modern humans. Danny is also a member of the Independent Scholars Association of Australia Inc. He joins us to discuss his theory of human origins. He begins with a reassessment of Neanderthal behavioral ecology. He’ll explain Neanderthal Predation (NP) theory revealing that Neanderthals were 'apex' predators who resided at the top of the food chain and everything, including humans was their prey. Danny explains how Neanderthals are the origins of our deep source of fear. Vendramini suggests that Eurasian Neanderthals abducted, raped and interbred with early humans in the Middle East producing hybrids. We’ll discuss sexual predation, the most important aspect of his theory, when mating drastically changed bringing forth romantic love. He also explains how Neanderthals jump started our evolution into the modern human. In the second hour we’ll speak more on the disappearance of the Neanderthal from the historical record. Danny continues on selection pressure for strategic adaptations, including cognitive ability, male aggression, language capacity, gender roles and creativity. We end the hour on the sad consequences of predation, deeply engrained into our consciousness. He explains how awareness is fundamental.

 

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themandus.org
thesecondevolution.com
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Them and Us: How Neanderthal predation created modern humans

Comments (17)

Danny V's theory would have so much more credibility if he knew of Stan Gooch's work. Gooch has as been championed , since his death by the awesome Colin Wilson, most recently in "Atlantis and the Kingdom of the Neanderthals". Gooch's theories are little known because of their Political Incorrectness, especially their implication that Left-Wing and Communist beliefs are a kind a nostalgic desire to return to the lost Neanderthal heritage.Vendramini's sinister portrayal also dovetails with Gooch's views of their legacy in humanity's unconscious Shadow. I have read Danny's book ,by the way, and I'm so glad you featured him. I thought no-one else cared !
#17 - Aldo Donadel - 20/09/2013 - 02:20
Dis-Information...
Truly, this Guest's "theory" is questionable, and the sad part is he probably/might/does, believe it :(

However, Many Thanks to All at Red
Ice for ALL your Guests... and Many Thanks to All Guests (no matter my opinion) :)
#16 - scottiegirl - 04/06/2013 - 15:20
Neanderthal cave art
Unfortunately, the most important question has not been asked to Vendramini. A simple question made of three words that could seriously jeopardize his theory :

'Neanderthal cave art'

Is this compatible with his version of the Neanderthals ? Sure doesn't sound like it.


Cheers
#15 - Vincent B. - 03/06/2013 - 22:10
Missing the Point
Arguing the unknowable seems to miss the point I heard in the interview. Let me clarify because I can see where naysayers really cause others to shutdown. The important theory is teemosis and the dna coding functions. Perhaps because I work in agriculture and animal husbandry my sensory intelligence is cued to know the higher degree that animals have. Yes, the idea that instinct is encoded so to speak will be the field of study that ought to have been already. I hope and wish so, because it is important and fascinating. It is some of the kind knowledge that has been withheld, obscured, hidden.

What I am saying is it is going to be found to be more than emotional intelligence dna markers but the sensory intelligence also. The possibilities are very exciting. Think improved vision, I'm imagining the spectrum of light. And yet for me the timing and dating is an unanswered conundrum.

We deserve to know, and should support those working (slogging) through the science to lend our own senses further validation.
#14 - Jade Tlef - 29/05/2013 - 05:03
very interesting new prospective
...Neanderthal bones do have more of ape like appearance so why not look at them from that prospective

I would like to say to
#6 - S , who said,
"How often do we see a people portrayed as cannibalistic monsters in order to resolve genocide? It is the simple answer, it is rarely the reality."

How often do we see cannibalistic monsters cause genocide, how many attempts at genocide have we seen in the past century alone. I think it has been the reality more often then not.... but us non-cannibalistic monsters still hang on, they haven't ate us all yet but they keep on trying.
#13 - wemustthink - 27/05/2013 - 15:35
Curious
I like it a lot. It sets a compass with an imagined magnetic north that is useful for perspective. Which makes my emotional body more comfortable with the crazy days of now. I am uneducated sorry to say and need help understanding the dating of it all. I subscribe to the Electric Plasma Universe theories and would wish to have juxtaposed some kind of uniting theory on dating these things. Thank you Henrik, Red Ice.
#12 - Jade Tlef - 24/05/2013 - 20:02
I'm glad to have heard this interview, and I enjoyed listening but there was something fluttering away inside of me as I listened.

There is no doubt, even today, humans do have predators who look, talk and appear like sentient humans; however their humanity and sentience, compassion and empathy has somehow been outbred or split off. Take Savile for example.

But to pin predation of humans on the Neanderthal is....well, how can any of it be proven?

However, having said that, it is curious how today only one species of mankind exists, unlike all other life on earth. This anomally is interesting.
#11 - Karen2 - 20/05/2013 - 19:58
Nah...
#10 - Miker - 17/05/2013 - 21:33
The "Atma" or self created for the incarnation includes instincts and affinities necessary for it's basic survival. It's not "intellectual/Philosophy/Mentalism" but basic compassion of life coming from higher planes.
#9 - paul - 17/05/2013 - 01:59
Made little or no sense to me.
Sorry.
It takes all sorts I guess and Red Ice presents.
I decided.
This theory is definitely not for me.
Michael Cremo thanks.
#8 - Elizabethrose - 16/05/2013 - 16:57
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